As I’m sure anyone actually visiting this website, let alone reading this post, is aware, the biggest comic book event of 2012 has come and gone and the “Consequences” have begun.  Yes, clearly I’m talking about Avengers vs X-Men.  Ok, let’s get this out there right away.  I enjoyed it.  Judging by the majority of reviews I read, whether they be for individual issues or the event overall, I enjoyed it more than most.

Clearly, it had flaws:  Cyclops being so aggressive towards the Avengers right out of the gate for instance.  Personally, he made me side with the Avengers right away.  Also, as is the case with most major events, it is difficult to use every character effectively when you have so many.  And the creation of the Phoenix 5 was odd at first, but I eventually got used to it.

All that being said, there were a lot more cool moments for me.  Just off the top of my head, Cap trying to reconvene the Illuminati was a great scene.  I loved just about everything with Professor X, Cyclops learning that he’s “an idiot” from a very special red-head was a wonderful moment and we got one of my favorite covers of all-time (Jerome Opena’s  variant for Avengers vs X-Men #4).  I was also very excited to get some answers to a few questions that have been unanswered since Messiah Complex.  I took about a 10 year hiatus from comic collecting.  Messiah Complex was what brought me back into the game, so I was excited to have a little bit of closure from that.

So yes, I liked it.  A lot.

But that isn’t really the point of this post.  I think the reason I liked it, and my theory as to why most people didn’t and why it seems that most major events and crossovers get a bad rap are why we’re here today.

Just How Much Story Is There To Tell?

I have a question for everyone.  When was the last time you read EVERY SINGLE ISSUE of a particular crossover?  I read reviews of crossovers, or the dreaded list of the “Worst Comic Events Ever” and one question always bugs me.  Did the person writing this actually bother to read the entire thing?

Now before I really get into this, I’m warning everyone, my examples will almost exclusively be limited to Marvel, as I am very much a Marvel guy.

IGN included two of my favorite events on their worst of all time list:  Onslaught and Secret Invasion.  Let’s tackle Onslaught first.  It seemed that the major complaint was how it completely encompassed the Marvel Universe.  It tied in everywhere.  Hell, even Green Goblin had a tie-in comic to that event.  Personally, I don’t necessarily see the problem with that.  One of my favorite things about major crossovers is that it reminds us that all of these characters do indeed live in the same universe.  Something as major as Professor Xavier becoming an all-powerful entity and laying waste to the Marvel U is going to affect more than just the X-Men.  Oh, and he wasn’t just trying to lay waste to shit.  He was trying to recreate the Age of Apocalypse after seeing into the mind of Nate Grey.  How badass is that?

So anyway, when the world goes to hell, it’s not just the Children of the Atom that feel the effects.

I loved the references to older stories as well.  In Uncanny X-Men 287, we’re treated to a flashback(ironically taking place in the future) of Bishop stumbling upon the ruins of the Xavier mansion and viewing a recorded distress call from Jean Grey to the other X-Teams, warning of a traitor within the X-Men.  Well things come full circle as we actually get to see Jean making that distress call in X-Men: Onslaught.

I’ve read every single issue of this event and it’s much better than it gets credit for.  However, it did lead into the Heroes Reborn story.  So, you take what you can get.

Now, on to Secret Invasion.  At first, even I wasn’t totally sold on this event.  I thought the core series left a lot to be desired.  But hot damn this had some awesome tie-ins.  I loved the X-men and Thor tie-ins.  I thought it was wonderful how the Mighty Avengers and New Avengers tie-ins were used to show how past events had been influenced by the Skrull imposters already in place on Earth.  You know what, as I look at my inventory and see the list of tie-ins, the only one I thought they really could have done without was Secret Invasion: Amazing Spider-Man.

If you started reading Secret Invasion and gave up on it without reading the tie-in series, do yourself a favor and get on that.

Secret Invasion, for me, was a prime example of what a major event should do.  It should bring characters from many different series together and it should introduce fans to characters and creators they may not have been familiar with.  I loved the Black Panther tie-ins because of Jason Aaron.  Secret Invasion reminded everyone that Nick Fury was bad-ass before Samuel L. Jackson and it introduced me to Noh-Varr.  For those who’ve actually read it, was there any more stand up and cheer moment than when Noh-Varr told the Skrulls their invasion was over?

The bottom line is, when you get the whole story, from every angle, it makes the entire event considerably more enjoyable.

Even though I haven’t read them, I’m sure the same can be said of some of DC’s events.  How many people actually read every issue of Blackest Night or Flashpoint?

Granted, there are some things that undoubtedly deserve to be hated.  I’m looking at you One More Day and Clone Saga.

New Story Arc Coming Out?  Time To Sell Cash In Some Bonds!

So, the other major issue with collecting complete comic book events, of course is cost.  Well, surprisingly, or maybe not all that surprisingly, it’s actually fairly common to find new issues for less than cover price at conventions.  Also, if you don’t mind waiting a little bit, give it a year after the event is done.  You’ll end up seeing just about every issue of a major crossover in dollar bins at shows.  Personally, I collected every single issue of Civil War and only paid more than $1 for one issue, of course, it was the last one I needed.

We all know that the main purpose of a major events and crossovers, at least from the publisher’s aspect, is to make money.  Doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy it.  If you have the means and sometimes, the patience, go beyond the core series.  Read the tie-ins, as many as possible.  You’ll get more angles, more conflicts, introductions to artists and writers you may not be familiar with and characters who could become some of your favorites.

My all-time favorite Events, Crossovers and Story Arcs

  1.  Age of Apocalypse
  2. Civil War
  3. Fatal Attractions
  4. Mutant Massacre
  5. Dark Phoenix Saga
  6. X-Cutioner’s Song
  7. Messiah Complex/Messiah War/Second Coming (its also a good idea to read 2008’s Cable series)
  8. Welcome Back, Frank
  9. Avengers: Disassembled
  10. X-Men: God Loves, Man Kills

 

Bill A.

I’ve been a fan of comics since I first tuned in to the X-Men cartoon on Saturday mornings and got hooked as a kid. I started my business in 2010, Geek Inc Comics, and have been selling both online and at shows all over the Midwest since then. My heart belongs to Marvel, but I’ll happily discuss any series, any artist, any movie, any time.

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Amazing Spiderman 700

The cover to The Amazing Spiderman 700

 

Okay, so we’re going to try doing an Amazing Spiderman 700 review without spoilers.  So if you haven’t read this issue yet, and haven’t heard what happens, you’re safe.  You’re also living under a rock, but that’s another story altogether.  But anyways, here we are.  Amazing Spiderman 700, the theoretically last issue in a 50 year old run.  And I say theoretically because I buy the permanence of that about as much as I buy the permanence of what happens at the end of this issue and as much as anything else in the comic universe, which is to say, I don’t.  No one stays dead except Bucky.  And Bucky is alive.

Is Amazing Spiderman 700 Worth The Buy?

So, since we’re trying to avoid spoilers (and since most of you already know what happens despite that, and since it’s already been rehashed by every comic blog and fanboy in the universe) I’d like to review ASM 700 for what it means.  50 years is a long time for a comic series to run.  What does #700 say about where the series made it when it all ended?

Do you know why Venom was such a popular and menacing villain?  Don’t worry, I’m going somewhere with this, and yes, it’s related to #700.  Venom was popular because he was personal.  He wasn’t just a Spiderman villain, he was also a Peter Parker villain.  Much like the Green Goblin, but even more personal, because in many ways he was Spiderman.  He was the black costume, Spiderman’s costume, he shot webs, was strong, could climb walls.  He was that thing that goes bump in the night, and his creation and his fights with Spiderman were epic.  What’s more, his creation was part of the start of the McFarlane issues, a truly “amazing” run.  And why is this all relevant?  Because the people behind ASM 700 compared this issue with #300 in terms of scope and importance.

Look, ASM #700 was a good issue.  It was an interesting story, the writing and art were well done, and it was enjoyable.  But I’m going to call out a few things about it right now.  First off is the price tag.  $8.  That’s a lot for a single issue.  A whole lot.  Particularly a regular issue.  And yeah, I know, it’s #700, it’s a milestone, and something important happens in it.  But you know what Marvel?  If that’s the case, don’t make me pay a ton extra beyond your super high price for the variant cover.   Give me a hologram, or holo-foil, or at the very least some nice glossy card stock.  Paying $8 just because an issue has a few bonus stories that don’t actually effect anything and one big even that even rookie fanboys can see will probably be retconned in a few years just feels dirty.

And that brings us to the next big problem.  There was nothing really new introduced in this issue.  Do you know why #300 was so big guys?  It’s because it was a revolutionary issue.  New villains, new art, new storytelling, new everything.  What do we have in this issue?  A major event that’s of questionable popularity with fans, and will likely be changed back after a year or two once the writers run out of ideas that relate to it.  There just wasn’t anything here that we haven’t seen before (in fact, we just saw the same event played out in the ultimate universe a year ago).  Again, it wasn’t a bad issue.  It just didn’t re-invent the wheel either.

And the final issue we have with this final issue is just that.  It’s the final issue.  With the release of Amazing Spiderman 700, Amazing Spiderman is coming to an end.  Technically, this happened before during the whole Heroes Reborn era when we got all the major titles reset, but eventually everything just got put back to where it was supposed to be with the numbering intact.  So what reason do we have to believe that won’t be the case this time?  And why shouldn’t it be the case this time?  Again, it’s all gimmicks we’ve seen before, and it’s all stuff that we have no reason to believe will be lasting.

When all is said and done, this is a pretty okay milestone issue.  It’s a good read, and I’d recommend checking it out.  But don’t wait on this becoming that epic key issue that’s worth ten times what you paid for it in a few years.  In fact, I’d be amazed if this didn’t end up in the cheap bins at shows alongside other great reads that were just printed in way too high quantities (looking at you X-Men #1).

Overall Grade:  B+

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Deadpool 2 is out on store shelves, the 2nd issue in the new series from Brian Posehn and Gerry Duggan and illustrated by Tony Moore.  This team’s first issue was met with fairly mixed reviews, so how did their second outing fare?

First Thoughts of Deadpool #2?

First and foremost about this issue, before you even get it home, will be the price.  In a world dominated by $3.99 comics (and a few $4.99 ones here and there for “special” issues) Deadpool #2, like #1, comes with a price tag of $2.99.  While in the big picture this may be a small thing, it’s nice to have this greeting you right at the time of the purchase.  It’s like getting a meal at a restaurant that was plated exceptionally well.  It doesn’t necessarily mean that it’ll taste good, but at least it’s starting things off on the right foot.

Deadpool #2 Summary

Now when we left off with old Wade, he had been shot in the back of the head by zombie Lincoln, in what was one of the few genuinely good jokes of issue #1.  Issue #2 starts off with a dream sequence in which Wade is being fought over by a somewhat random selection of Marvel women.  Thanks to that reliable healing factor, he soon wakes up and finds its’ time to get back to work.  S.H.I.E.L.D. is starting to get nervous about the havoc these former leaders are causing, and luckily for them Deadpool meets and starts getting guidance from the ghost of Ben Franklin.  After Deadpool is able to take out a zombie Roosevelt by impaling him with an elephant and electrocuting him (and the elephant), he and his S.H.I.E.L.D. contact decide to head out to someone who can help a bit more with paranormal issues, on Dr. Stephen Strange.

And Here’s The Review

This issue suffers from some of the same problems the first issue had.  Namely, instead of a handful of really funny jokes that we’ve come to expect from the mouth of Wade, we get a non-stop stream of watered down material that seems like Posen and Duggan just wanted to see how many funny lines they could cram onto each page.  The art is fairly well done, although Tony Moore has certainly proved himself before and he chooses a very vibrant color palette here.  For the lower purchase price, this book would be worth the pickup for fans of Moore’s art in many cases.

Where this series has failed so far is somewhere a bit more subtle, but still very clear to fans of the character.  When talk began of a Deadpool movie some time ago after the Wolverine movie, fans online were rabid about the fact that it needed to be rated R.  It was bad enough that Wolverine had to be neutered, but to have Deadpool get diluted would be unthinkable.  And this series, aside from the gore you get from Moore’s art, seems to be extremely PG.  Not even a hard PG-13, and certainly not an R.

Remender’s Deadpool in the Uncanny X-Force series is one of the best writings of the character ever, and so with that still coming out it’s hard not to compare the two.  And the new Deadpool series thus far just hasn’t cut it.  There’s still hope, certainly, but if Posehn and Duggan are going to keep people buying this series, they need to return Deadpool to his roots.  Start breaking the 4th wall, start killing indiscriminately, and for God’s sake don’t force the humor.  Posehn is a terrific standup, so he should definitely know about letting humor flow organically, and hopefully soon we’ll see that here.  Until then, this was just a middle of the road issue with not a whole ton going for it.

Grade: C-

Bill A.

I’ve been a fan of comics since I first tuned in to the X-Men cartoon on Saturday mornings and got hooked as a kid. I started my business in 2010, Geek Inc Comics, and have been selling both online and at shows all over the Midwest since then. My heart belongs to Marvel, but I’ll happily discuss any series, any artist, any movie, any time.

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Comic Grading – This actually IS a 9.9!

Comic grading seems to be difficult for some people.  At least, doing it in a way that doesn’t make those around you raise their eyebrows at you seems difficult for some. Last weekend, at Detroit Fanfare (see my review of the show here) I twice was talking to someone about a particular issue they had and heard them describe the issue as “at least a 9.8”.  Really?  At least?  Now I realize that there’s a very good chance these people didn’t fully realize what that term means, like pretty much any time someone uses the word “literally”.  But then again, there’s also the chance that these people legitimately thought that they had a 9.9-10.0 grade issue.

Look, I realize that such issues exist.  They really do, they’re out there and if you look long enough you’ll find them.  But they’re rare.  Really rare.  And odds are you don’t have one.  Just like a person I talked to at another show recently insisted that he had a rare bronze age 9.9 issue.  He then proceeded to pull out a comic that, on a generous day, would get a 9.2

Grading isn’t a science.  We should get that clear right from the start.  As I type this, I’m looking at 5 Fantastic Four #67s all graded at 9.0.  These issues are all pretty close in shape, but they’re not all exactly the same, which is what happens when real life humans look things over.  You get little variances in the grades, which means that some days an 8.5 issue will come back with a 9.2, and some days it might come back as a 7.5.  We’ve all see issues with a grade that left us scratching our heads, and that’s not likely to stop anytime soon.  That being said, getting a good idea of the grade of your issue is easier than you think.

You Have The Internet, You Can Learn Comic Grading At Home

Now we’re not going to get into a lesson on how to grade here.  There are plenty of comic grading tutorials out there for that, and Overstreet makes a pretty comprehensive book on just that subject.  What we are going to do here is reprimand people who either are trying to sell something as Near Mint when it’s clearly Vine, or trying to describe something they’re about to buy as Very Good in order to get the price down, when everyone involved knows that it’s really Fine+.

Over grading is easy to do. We find an issue we like, it looks pretty nice, emotion sometimes gets involved.  But at the end of the day, it’s always a good idea to play devil’s advocate with your personal grading and assume that those tiny little flaws you overlooked probably matter to other people.  If you walk around presenting comics with blunted corners and spine ticks as 9.8s, pretty soon no one is going to take you seriously.

An Easy Way To Grade On Your Own

When trying to figure out the grade of your comic, there’s an easy trick to be a little more accurate and communicate its condition better to others.  First, in your mind figure out what grade you think it is.  Like what your knee jerk reaction to seeing it is.  You’d like to be holding a 9.8?  Okay, that’s fine.  Now, take that number and subtract 4 grades.  So in this example, that would be 9.0.  Now assume that someone just walked up to you and stated that they believe the issue you’re holding is that lower grade.  Well, it’s up to you to convince them otherwise.  So start going over the issue millimeter by millimeter.  Ask why that imaginary person just told you that they think the comic is a whole 4 grades lower than what you originally thought.  Are the corners not quite as square as you thought?  Is that a crease near the top staple?  Are those colors just a little bit faded?  If you can absolutely sell this imaginary person that all the faults they thought they saw aren’t there, then yes, you may have a 9.8.  But odds are, you and your imaginary friend are going to settle somewhere in the middle, maybe a 9.4.

This gets easier when dealing with mid-grade issues, as you start to see how much difference there is between a 4.0 and a 6.0.  A terrific help is to pick up a few graded comics of various grades.  For some reason, there are lower grade cheap issues available everywhere, and just having a set of 3.0-6.0 issues laying around as references can really help if you’re serious about representing your issues the right way.  Keep in mind though that these would just be rough guides, and that even CGC has quite a bit of variance in how their grading comes out.

So all in all, as we said before it’s not a science.  One man’s 9.4 is another man’s 9.6.  But don’t be the guy who tells someone you have a comic that’s “at least a 9.8”.  Tell people you have one that’s probably a 9.8, and realize that a 9.8 is really really nice.  Literally two steps away from perfect.  And don’t pick up a comic at a dealers booth and say “well, that’s probably a 2.0, so I’ll give you this much for it”, because frankly 2.0s are bad enough that you’ll know them when you see them.  As with so many other things in life, the real answer is more often than not somewhere in the middle.

Bill A.

I’ve been a fan of comics since I first tuned in to the X-Men cartoon on Saturday mornings and got hooked as a kid. I started my business in 2010, Geek Inc Comics, and have been selling both online and at shows all over the Midwest since then. My heart belongs to Marvel, but I’ll happily discuss any series, any artist, any movie, any time.

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